Tuesday, April 17, 2007

Gun control...here it comes?

It was bound to happen. If you read the discussion on international websites over the Virginia Tech shootings you see what they say, Americans are gun crazy fiends running around ready to pop off.
Presidential candidate John McCain says "We have to look at what happened here, but it doesn't change my views on the Second Amendment, except to make sure that these kinds of weapons don't fall into the hands of bad people."

But who knows if a person is "bad?" Gun control, here it comes?


Steve D said...

Every time something like this happens the same gun grabbing liberals come out of the woodwork wanting to take away our guns. We cannot allow the idiots in this country to be successful in banning guns from law-abiding citizens. A kook hell-bent on killing a large number of people can do so without a gun simply by making a bomb using other legal means, i.e., fertilizer and fuel oil...remember Oklahoma City?

Anonymous said...

A gun is merely a tool. We had murders as far back as rocks and swords. Also, who knows that someone is a drunk when they purchase a car? Few are calling for the ban of automobiles or butcher knives. It is the person using the product wrongfully that must be controlled, not the instrumentality.

sad story said...

With all of the office-seekers pandering to the NRA and folks with a mentality like the previous poster, it is far more likely that they will outlaw Asian engineering students than guns. You are inviting your commenters to quote a senile Charleton Heston and cover themselves with our flag. The real truth is that there are far too many guns in circulation to confect a reasonable solution. One proposal that has promise is to tax ammunition (manufactured or home loaded) so that a box of bullets costs $300. Then there will be some logic to carrying your NRA card in your wallet.

Spanky said...

I have often wondered when these situations occur what the outcome would be if just one citizen was carrying a gun and was able to stop the attack. Our second amendment right to keep and bear, emphasis on bear, was placed in our constitution for very personal and common sense reasons. Protecting the the constitution does matter as witnessed by the number of people that have fallen victim to bad actors as they were left defenseless by gun control fanatics. "Out"laws will always have guns because by nature, they live outside the law, therefore any law to contrict bearing arms affects law-abiding citizens only. I am most sure that many think this line of reasoning crazy talk but I can assure you that I will not easily fall victim to an assault.

dlc said...

Gun bill gets shot down by panel
HB 1572, which would have allowed handguns on college campuses, died in subcommittee.
By Greg Esposito

A bill that would have given college students and employees the right to carry handguns on campus died with nary a shot being fired in the General Assembly.

House Bill 1572 didn't get through the House Committee on Militia, Police and Public Safety. It died Monday in the subcommittee stage, the first of several hurdles bills must overcome before becoming laws.

The bill was proposed by Del. Todd Gilbert, R-Shenandoah County, on behalf of the Virginia Citizens Defense League. Gilbert was unavailable Monday and spokesman Gary Frink would not comment on the bill's defeat other than to say the issue was dead for this General Assembly session.

Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."

Del. Dave Nutter, R-Christiansburg, would not comment Monday because he was not part of the subcommittee that discussed the bill.

Most universities in Virginia require students and employees, other than police, to check their guns with police or campus security upon entering campus. The legislation was designed to prohibit public universities from making "rules or regulations limiting or abridging the ability of a student who possesses a valid concealed handgun permit ... from lawfully carrying a concealed handgun."

The legislation allowed for exceptions for participants in athletic events, storage of guns in residence halls and military training programs.

Last spring a Virginia Tech student was disciplined for bringing a handgun to class, despite having a concealed handgun permit. Some gun owners questioned the university's authority, while the Virginia Association of Chiefs of Police came out against the presence of guns on campus.

In June, Tech's governing board approved a violence prevention policy reiterating its ban on students or employees carrying guns and prohibiting visitors from bringing them into campus facilities.

This article is from the Roanoke Newspaper. Maybe if one of these students had been armed then he may not have killed so many. The crazies out there dont give a crap about gun control laws. All these laws do is keep guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens and keeps them from protecting themselves, thier families and property.

Pawpaw said...

One wonders what the outcome would have been if concealed carry was approved for students.

There are reports that some students were shot execution style. One has to wonder about the mindset of those students, who passively accepted death over fighting for their lives. A swarm of students against him would have caused some casualties, but if he'd have been bludgeoned after shooting three students, this wouldn't have been the same type of tragedy.

Anonymous said...

I notice that you refused to post my submission which was mildly pro gun control. This reveals something about your politics and even more about your journalistic integrity. Shame on you.

Anonymous said...

NRA people get ready Nancy will pull that cold hard steel out of your hands before you know it and Hillary will be waiting behind her to trash it when they are done. Then we will get to rely on idiots like the campus security at VT.

Blogger said...

Anonymous said...
I notice that you refused to post my submission which was mildly pro gun control. This reveals something about your politics and even more about your journalistic integrity. Shame on you.

April 17, 2007 1:50 PM

My apologies for posting your comment so late. Shame on me? Shame on you for jumping to conclusions when the reason I have to moderate comments in the first place is for hot heads like you. Please take a moment to understand this blog is a work in progress. Be patient your comment, unless it is about me personally will be posted.

sorry said...

I stand corrected and humbled. I apologize.

sorry said...

I stand corrected and humbled. I apologize.

Blogger said...

Whoops. Posted it twice it was so nice to hear a sorry. No big deal. I am trying to do better about posting a/s/a/p

Greg Aymond said...

Sad Story Said: You are inviting your commenters to quote a senile Charleton Heston and cover themselves with our flag.

Those who belive in a Constitutional right to keep and bear arms do not have to quote Charlton Heston. Instead, the D.C. Circuit, federal courts of appeal, and its decision in Parker vs. District of Columbia. On March 9, 2007, that appellate court ruled, in a history making decision, that there is indeed a 2nd Amendment right which grants individuals the right to keep and bear arms.
Why is it so hard to understand that a gun, like a car, a knife, a bomb, and an airplane, is an innanimate object. Such objects can be used for good or evil. It is people who use them, and it is people who must be regu;ated. Bottom line is, if you don't like guns, amend the Constitution. It is a shame that tragic events, such as this, are often used by some to advance a political agenda.